Hello all you knowledgable computer type people.
While I am somewhat savvy in the use of computers and even know how to build them I am a little in the dark concerning video cards and how the stack up against each other.
I preface this with the statement that computers are HELLA expensive in Canada compared to the US. So bear with me since I know you all can get an awesome computer for half the price.
I would like to use the build your own feature on the website of a computer store in my city to make a very good gaming rig. I want to be able to play Wildstar on maximum settings with no problems.
If anyone wants to hazard a guess as to what would be a good set up that would be nice.
Taxes in Canada are 13% so I am trying to keep the after tax price to a maximum of $2000.00.
http://www.canadacomputers.com/system_config/system_category.php?page=gaming
Any and all help is appreciated.
So here i am trying to help you out, since i just build my own a bit ago. I just cant really spend that kind of budget, it doesnt really make too much sense either to do so. The setup i picked is just fine, i picked solid parts, but not as expensive.
MSI GeForce GTX 760 Twin Frozr 3 4GB GDDR5 (N760 TF 4GD5/OC) (http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_1200_557_559&item_id=064321)$369.00
The MSI is the most silent cooling system of all GeForce GTX 760 and the best overall.
Intel Core i7-4770K Quad-Core Processor (http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4_1210_65&item_id=060637)$359.00
A solid high quality CPU, which will be of use for all kinds of things besides gaming - video rendering and other demanding tasks, thats where intel shines over AMD, your budget says: "get intel!"
Asrock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer Socket 1150 Intel Z87 Chipset (http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_1207_1206_1201&item_id=065207)$169.99
Will support overclocking.
Corsair Vengeance Pro Red 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL9 (http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=24_311_312_612&item_id=060790)$89.99
optional: get a second one for 16GB RAM total. or get it later when you need it like me.
EVGA 500W 80Plus Bronze Certified Power Supply (http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=33_1238_442&item_id=063157)$49.99
A case of your choice, ATX motherboard compadable (like this one with a nice fan in front (http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=6_112&item_id=053887) O0)
And a cheap DVD-Drive to install your OS. You could use an old one. Else jsut pick the cheapest (http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=3_61&item_id=060040).
optional:
I recommend this brand of SSD Samsung 840 EVO, I got a small SSD for the important stuff (for faster access) and the rest on a big HDD - you might wanna build in your old HDD for convenience. (Of couse some sort of SSD/HDD has to be build in - not optional)
OS, windos 7 64bit... you might want something else...
Soundcard, you dont really need one...
A better CPU-cooler than the standard one you get with this CPU (which is just fine).
Cost without any optional stuff: $1037
Hope i could help O0
Edit: Here's a side that shows this specs compared to the needed specs for wildstar (http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=2387&game=Wildstar&p_make=Intel&p_deriv=Core+i7-4770K+4-Core+3.5GHz&gc_make=Nvidia&gc_deriv=GeForce+GTX+760+MSI+TwinFrozr+Gaming+Edition&ram=8&checkSubmit=#systemRequirements).
With much help from Pedekele I post this list of parts for review by those more knowledgable than myself. Thanks for all the help Pedekele. Does this look like it will last me several years?
Mother Board - Asrock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer Socket 1150 Intel Z87 Chipset (http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_1207_1206_1201&item_id=065207) - $169.99
Processor - Intel Core i7-4770K Quad-Core Processor (http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4_1210_65&item_id=060637) - $359.00
Graphics Card - MSI GeForce GTX 760 Twin Frozr 3 4GB GDDR5 (N760 TF 4GD5/OC) (http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_1200_557_559&item_id=064321) - $369.00
Power Supply - EVGA 600W 80Plus Bronze Certified Power Supply (100-B1-0600-KR) (http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=33_1238_442&item_id=063158) - $74.99
Hard drive - WD Green 3TB 3.5" SATA3 64MB Buffer OEM Hard Drive (WD30EZRX) (http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=15_1086_210_212&item_id=039030) - $124.99
Cooling System - None required.
Sound Card - Not required. Use onboard audio from mother board.
CD/DVD/Blu-Ray - ASUS (DRW-24F1ST/BLK/B) Internal 24x DVD Writer, OEM (http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=3_61&item_id=060114) - $19.99
Memory - Corsair Vengeance Red 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1866MHz CL10 DIMMs (CMZ16GX3M2A1866C10R) (http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=24_311_312_613&item_id=049910) - $204.00
SDD - Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive (MZ-7TE250BW) (http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=179_1229_1088&item_id=062499) - $199.99
Case - Enermax CLIPEUS ECA3212-BL USB3.0 Black ATX Mid Tower (http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=6_112&item_id=053887) - $39.99
Operating System - Windows 7 64bit Home Premium (http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=530&item_id=037803) - $109.99
Total so far (before/after tax) - $1671.93/$1889.28
That's a solid PC.
Looks fabulous and under your budget, which is always amazing.
What kind of monitor do you have?
LG Flatron 2762D 27"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005142
Gith, that system you posted will run most everything on max graphics for at least the next 3 years, very good system.
Good to know. I went shopping today and ordered up all the parts. Gotta wait on the graphics card. Couldn't get the RAM I have listed but I got something comparable. Same with the power source. But otherwise as stated above. It is gonna be epic hopefully.
Thanks for the help guys. Ever since computer upgrades started to slow down my knowledge of hardware has lapsed.
So update.
They did not have the video card I wanted. In fact, they originally quoted me as the 2GB one instead of the 4GB. Caught the mistake when I got home and reviewed the build order receipt. So I advised them of the mistake and they said the 4GB were on back order without any ETA. Orders from a month ago had still not been filled.
So I replaced the video card with the EVGA GeForce GTX 760 Dual 4GB FTW w/ ACX Cooler (http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_1200_557_559&item_id=063452). $10 less but with the exact same specs. Compared them on NewEgg and it came across as having exactly the same everything as the original MSI one. And both had 5 star reviews across the board.
Also had to find different RAM. G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1866MHz CL10 Dual Channel Kit (http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=24_311_312_613&item_id=044963). Ended up being the same specs as the above listed one but a tiny bit cheaper. I found out what CL9 and CL10 mean regarding RAM today. I also found out what the amount of MHz on RAM means and why most motherboards are not going to be supporting the crazy high stuff like 2400MHz. Learning today!
Hopefully it will be built by tomorrow so I can start getting Windows and everything installed tomorrow and transferring data. Wildstar Beta comes back online noon EST tomorrow! (not gonna be ready for that :(
Hopefully these parts are comparable and of good quality. The internet seemed not to have any horrible reviews of these parts. Thanks to Tuppen for sharing his hardware knowledge when I was trying to pick replacement parts before the store closed today.
Wow. My first non-onboard video card was a VooDoo2.
That was a while ago.
great! dont worry about CL9/CL10 you wont feel the difference. You wont ever run into any issues with the herz of your RAM either. dun worry.
I bought mine off ebay and it's pretty beastily. I know just enough to probably build my own but if you can find a repeatable seller you can get one for just a little bit more then if you build it, say about $100 or so.
Experiencing a slight problem with my new computer. Plugged in the speakers. They now have a slight skipping buzz background noise to them. I have unplugged them, made sure it is clean, etc. Dunno what is up.
Try plug the speakers into another audio devise (not a phone, that can cause it to buzz too). If they don't buzz, make sure your other wiring is away from the speakers because that can also cause it to buzz.
Ok, so another question for my more computer savvy friends here on the forums.
I have a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760.
I currently have two minotors hooked up to it, one through the HDMI port and one through a converter cable HDMI to VGA adapter cable.
If I want to set up a triple monitor display is that possible with this graphics card?
If not, what would I need to accomplish this?
I have a 27 inch monitor and a 32 inch TV monitor currently hooked up. They are completely different and it is sort of annoying and looks weird.
I would prefer to downgrade in size to 24-27 inch displays and get three of the exact same thing so it is consistent.
Suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
I would expect a recent vintage NVIDIA to be able to support three, but I can't speak to that directly.
However,
Quote from: Val Gith on September 06, 2015, 04:10:09 AMI currently have two minotors hooked up to it
made me laugh, and reminded me of this. (http://www.cartoonstock.com/cartoonview.asp?catref=dto130826)
lol, that was very helpful for the question at hand ...
Your card supports up to 4 monitors, 3 of them can be hooked up for gaming.
I prefer using a single monitor, so i'm not an expert on the matter, but it should be as simple as pluging your monitors into your hdmi and 2 dvi slots and selecting them in the menu (dont know what it's called in english, it's the one you can easily access by rightclicking your desktop) like you did with 2 monitors...
Any suggestions on good 27-inch monitors for a multi monitor gaming set up?
I think what I want to do is do 3 gaming monitors and then a 4th monitor above for desktop.
Sort of like this (http://www.digitaltigers.com/images/product/main/ufapexelite-wid900.jpg)
I wonder if my graphics card can handle a game stretched across the 3 bottom ones? I tried playing SWTOR on ultra across 2 and it seemed fine. Looked silly though with my character split in half by the screens heh.
I wouldn't have even thought to stretch a game across multiple monitors. Do you end up with a panorama view that lets you see behind you?
I suppose a third monitor would put your POV back in the center of one, so you don't have the split character problem.
You basically get peripheral view. Not see behind you lol. You get a lot more room to your sides and more room to move stuff out of the way of your main POV. Move chat boxes, maps. inventory screens, etc. It is kinda nice.
And I like my chat windows big and right in front of me.
Oh, good point about moving HUD out of your field of view. Although I imagine that split up the middle is rather disconcerting.
i think one big monitor is much better. there are even curved ones... if you have just one monitor, nothing gets split, also you can invest the money of 3 monitors in one...
Also Monitors are currently evolving quickly, so you might regret sending alot on a monitor if there's better stuff out there soon. somtimes there's rediculous deals on decent monitors...
Immediately after reading that, I saw a reference to this in my news feed:
http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2015/09/08/lg-ultrawide-setup-dream-festival-gotta-check/
I wonder what would happen if I bought 6 of those and stretched a game all the way around me in a circle!?!? O_O
And why does the internet always make reference to the "PC Master Race". Kind of gauche but whatever.
I have joined the computer master race. Now time to get a monitor bracket and get them on arms :D
(http://sagafamily.org/gallery/3178_18_09_15_1_11_31.jpeg)
Blue or red pill, Sir?
Quote from: PinkRose on September 18, 2015, 06:10:34 PM
Blue or red pill, Sir?
Is purple an option? In case Neo develops a reflux condition, you know?
And it is complete!
The bracket came today to get them all up on arms. And got some longer cables.
(http://sagafamily.org/gallery/3178_23_09_15_2_54_03.jpeg)
Looks great!
I love the three-panel desktop wallpaper!
It did sort of complete the whole set up lol.
How the hell do you keep your desk so clean?!? You need way more coffee mugs, miscellaneous flash drives, and sticky notes.
I had JUSt put together the display. So it was at its maximum cleanage lol.
I have more empty glasses and stuff on it now. Though, I do try to keep the desk clean of debris.
New computer build!
The last one lasted for 4 years. It is still doing ok but upcoming games like Anthem in February are saying my specs don't meet some of the minimums and definitely not the recommended. My GTX 760 lasted 4 years though which is pretty good!
I found it very handy to have this old post available for me to find so I am posting my build up here again so I can find it later.
CASE: ROSEWILL ATX Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case with Tempered Glass and RGB LED Lighting (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B077232WC2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1)
CPU: Intel Core i7-8086K Desktop Processor 6 Cores up to 5.0 GHz Unlocked LGA 1151 300 Series 95W (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07DGDWJ3P/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1)
CPU COOLING: Cooler Master GeminII S524 Version 2 CPU Air Cooler with 120 mm Silencio FP Fan (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00UOIK3FU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Black Edition 8GB GDDR5 (https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_1200_557_559&item_id=116939)
MOBO: ASUS TUF Z370 Pro Gaming LGA1151 DDR4 HDMI DVI M.2 Z370 ATX Motherboard (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B075RJP22C/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1)
POWER: EVGA 750 BQ, 80+ BRONZE 750W (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01FYDUDJ0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3000MHz C15 Desktop Memory (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0134EW7G8/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" SATA III 1TB Read: 550MB/s; Write: 520MB/s Solid State Drive (https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=179_1229_1088&item_id=120022)
HDD: Western Digital Red 4 TB 3.5-Inch SATA 6GB/s NAS Hard Drive (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00EHBERSE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1)
OS: Windows 10 Home | USB Flash Drive (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07HH9MHLC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1SNT261LJ7ZYZ&psc=1)
Now I just need to be patient and wait for Black Friday/Cyber Monday to see if I can get any deals on these parts. The GPU and SSD were on sale for $180 and $200 off so that is some good savings so far!
This is my current system, I can play BDO on max settings with no issues (and every other game I play)
The prices are a few years old .. maybe more than a few years.
Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3 GHz LGA 2011-v3 BX80648I75820K Desktop Processor Intel $384.99
ASUS X99-DELUXE/U3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard ASUS $399.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws 4 Series 64GB (8 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2133 (PC4 17000) Memory Kit Model F4-2133C15Q2-64GRR G.Skill $299.99
Quantity: 2 (twin setup SLI) ASUS GeForce GTX 980 Ti POSEIDON-GTX980TI-P-6GD5 Video Card ASUS $719.99 EACH
Antec H2O 1250 KUHLER H2O 1250 Water Cooler Antec $97.99
Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-900 900W Power Supply Antec $141.00
AZZA Solano 1000R Black / Red Japanese SECC Steel/Metal mesh in front MicroATX/ATX/Full ATX Computer Case AzzA $109.99
WD Black 2TB Performance Desktop Hard Disk Drive - 7200 RPM SATA 6 Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD2003FZEX "Western Digital" $127.00
ASUS BC-12D2HT 12X Blu-ray BD Combo Player DVD Writer SATA Internal Drive ASUS $109.00
Shhh! Y'all are making me want to build a new computer. :fln:
I found many of the parts on sale from my local Canada Computers and Amazon so many of the parts will be arriving today!
But of course, the case will be arriving last lol.
Quote from: Kalese on October 16, 2018, 04:41:42 PM
Quantity: 2 (twin setup SLI) ASUS GeForce GTX 980 Ti POSEIDON-GTX980TI-P-6GD5 Video Card ASUS $719.99 EACH
What are you running with twin linked graphics cards? I currently have 3 monitors running off a single GTX 760.
I always have BDO up.. that is just how BDO works.. I put it on #2 monitor and GC when I'm not active in it.
My main monitor and GC covers everything else. Star Citizen, World of Warships, EQ, ESO, etc.
I know it's overkill.. but on the plus side, Everything gets max graphics :)
Nice!
My left monitor is usually Netflix. Centre is games on full screen windowed. Right is browsing and miscellaneous tasks/windows.
It is complete! :--- :tan: :---
(http://sagafamily.org/gallery/3178_28_10_18_12_10_07.jpeg)
Oooh, sexy! :tan:
Very nice indeed! Looks better than mine. I'm jealous *pulls out her dagger threateningly* (~Bella)
Wow....impressive!
O0
I am such a piker when it comes to high end PC set-ups.
Bee-yoo-tiful.
I also think Kalese's motherboard is smexy, too--but I'm biased because my most recent system was built on top of an Asus X99 Deluxe II.
**leaves behind a stack of clean geek drool cloths**
It all goes to waste when I barely have time to even play Solitaire, though. Maybe someone needs to invent Super 3D Virtual Reality Battle Solitaire.
Gith. Wow.
Although ... That looks suspiciously Borg to me.
Quote from: Talon on October 28, 2018, 05:08:24 PM
Gith. Wow.
Although ... That looks suspiciously Borg to me.
Nope, that's all Matrix. Notice the lack of spoons.
Yeah, I almost asked Gith, "So, when you first logged in, did you suddenly know Kung-Fu"?
Take the BLUE pill!!!!!
New Computer!
Due to the fact that prices for computer components are insane, especially GPUs, it is now cheaper to buy a pre-made PC. I found a pre-made by Canada Computers that they assemble in house so they actually list what parts they use instead of "brands may vary". Found a really good one for a decent price.
I am posting in this thread again because I actually refer to it when looking to do a new computer to see what parts are in stuff. Good record to have.
(https://ccimg.canadacomputers.com/Products/1000x1000/1038/1039/208813/93706.jpg) (https://ccimg.canadacomputers.com/Products/1000x1000/1038/1039/208813/81771.jpg)
Brand: Armoury
Model: A-046
Part Number: RTARU00046
CPU: Intel 12th Gen Core i9-12900K - Cores 16 / Threads 24 (Clock Speed: up to 5.2 GHz)
CPU Cooling: CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX WHITE, 360mm Radiator, Liquid CPU Cooler
GPU: ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 3080 V2 White OC Edition 10GB GDDR6X LHR
MOBO: ASUS ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming WiFi D4 (WiFi WIFI 6)
RAM: CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB PRO 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz WHITE
SSD: Corsair MP600 Core 1TB PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2
PSU: CORSAIR RMx Series RM850x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Case: CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW Tempered Glass Mid-Tower ATX Case, White (CORSAIR RGB Fans)
OS: Windows 11 home 64-bit
Looks to be a very nice new set up sir!
Hopefully by the time I next need to do a build, components will not still be in such a messy situation of shortages and "extra markup". Sheesh.
Funny that you were first to reply. Most of the parts are Corsair ;)
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Probably the good stuff then. (i actually used to use their stuff a lot, often was pretty high quality.)
But always remember, the real meaning...the Vought F4-U Corsair. The most beautiful machine ever engineered by mankind.
Click below for proper sized image of true beauty.
That is a nice plane.