Hello everyone!
I know, I've been on the quiet side for a long time, but I just saw a video I think you should all see. Hopefully a forum post hasn't already been made about this game.
https://youtu.be/eOdU6gJ07rQ
The gist of it is this: As far as I can tell, Ashes of Creation (https://www.ashesofcreation.com/) is the spiritual successor to Everquest Next. The Team (https://www.ashesofcreation.com/the-team/) working on it also worked on Everquest, Everquest 2, Star Wars Galaxies, both Planetsides, and most importantly, Everquest Next. A lot of the mechanics that were being hyped in Next are being planned for in Ashes - player-aided NPC towns that grow and unlock questing areas as they do, player-built housing, assisting with resource movement between cities, bounty systems for chaotic players, etc etc. Player classes are described as "sandbox" so each character will be relatively unique, crafting will come in three tiers (gathering, processing, and crafting), and exp will be gained in great enough amounts to level up from doing a variety of activities, from exploration to crafting to pvp (I assume on the last one).
And speaking of PvP, it seems that this game will be a core aspect of the game. The amount of towns and outposts in the world are limited, and if another is to be built up after the cap is reached, another town must be demolished. So players will be the driving force behind that sort of decision. Some players won't want to give up on the city they've helped built, while others want to build up in new areas for even greater rewards.
By the same token, it also means that no two servers will look exactly the same. Some servers will have thriving metropolises in places that are barren on other servers.
I'll be checking this game out when it becomes available, for sure.
OOOOOOOOOOh.
I'm liking what I'm seeing here.
Thanks for the heads-up.
You never know...maybe this gets backed and rolling.
Seems to be a potentially very interactive world design. Possibly also PvP centric?
Has been a very long time since anything has caught my eye. I will be watching this one though.
So lovely to hear from you Auren! And you bring incredibly intriguing news. That is some amazing footage from pre-Alpha, and I definitely like what I'm seeing. This will have to go on my watch list.
I like that it appears that PvP needs PvE, so it's a world of both.
I'm really going to pay attention.
Also, who doesn't like a game that directly pokes fun at the failure of Next? Rising from the ashes of a destroyed civilization?
Quote from: Jasyn on April 16, 2017, 01:25:50 PM
So lovely to hear from you Auren! And you bring incredibly intriguing news. That is some amazing footage from pre-Alpha, and I definitely like what I'm seeing. This will have to go on my watch list.
Thanks! I knew you guys would really like the look of it.
As for the PvP aspect, I like that the game does not condone violence against other players for no reason. While you certainly MAY do that, the biggest reason for fighting other people is to further expand your territory, but in ways that ADD MORE to the game for everyone involved, not just the guild(s) that can manage to control a region.
And at the same time, I see great potential from a roleplay perspective. I don't think I saw any developer-created factions, so what will probably end up happening naturally is this: Powerful alliances of guilds will work together to keep a city prosperous and expand nearby. Some guilds might break off and form their own alliances and set up other cities elsewhere. It's all part of the natural progression of the game. After a long time, I think cities that have been around for a long time will become like capitals. The guilds that help protect the capital cities will be like the rulers.
What has been created here? Separate cities, controlled by different guilds, who are all looking out for their own best interests and trying to expand. They'll make attacks on supply caravans and outposts of their rivals to further their own growth. Player-created factions without the need for a contrived backstory. It'll all be politics, much like real-life countries.
That's what I hope to see anyway.
I feel bad for registering myself.
I should have given you a referral.
We should definitely help each other out.
Yes?
I found this interesting: https://www.ashesofcreation.com/a-reactive-world-nodes/
It is also important to note, that after a node has advanced to the next stage, it is no longer possible to develop its neighboring nodes unless the node is sieged and destroyed. After every advancement to the next stage of that node's development, the ring of disabled neighboring nodes grow, stopping the neighboring nodes from progressing to the next stage. Each node has its own unique content, that is only accessible after being developed. So when one node may advance and unlock content, it comes at the cost of the content that a neighboring node may have offered.
Quote from: PinkRose on April 16, 2017, 07:36:59 PM
I feel bad for registering myself.
I should have given you a referral.
We should definitely help each other out.
Yes?
Oh, I haven't registered for it, so no big deal here. Currently, I am enjoying Final Fantasy 14 and all it has to offer once again, plus preparing for its next expansion. I don't foresee myself quitting for a while, so I'll be watching for all of your reactions to Ashes, once you can get your hands on a playable version.
They said a Kickstarter would be coming.
I'll keep an eye out.
This is very awesome - ill definitely keep an eye out for the kickstarter
hmm this looks promising. may have to decide between this and pantheon. I did like what they said on the homepage about dual classed characters. my dream of running a rogue/priest hybrid may finally come through.
I always wanted a "relic hunter" type char since D&D and even did a "make your own class " thing for it from the DMG way back when. basically a char to go around recovering holy relics from forgotten ruins and such. I mean every game seems to have a warrior/mage hybrid (shadowknight) and usually a warrior/cleric (ranger,paladin) one too. granted cleric/mage hybrid doesn't come around probably due to brains exploding over which of their 500 different spells they should pick for their 8 spell slots, but a melee dps/priestly class hasn't been around. I suppose beastmaster might have been closest but that was more of a pet class.
I've played a few Priest of the magic God in my Tabletop games.
I've enjoyed it.
As for the cleric/rogue, the Waterdeep trilogy has a great example but nothing in a game that I know of.
The closest would be bard, maybe?
Really I just hope that either this or Pantheon turns out to be great.
Either one.
And maybe just one? So as not to split us...I feel bad thinking only one being good might be better...but selfishly I want us not to split up into two groups in the next generation.
Odds on both being great based on history seems low though. Hopefully having two contenders means one will rise up and be awesome.
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/
Kickstarter launches in 7 days!
May 1. Support at your own peril.
I've been burned by EQN, but I don't think it was these guys' fault.
I'll probably (I'm sure I will) be backing this.
I'm totally in agreement with Corsair. Just get the band back together.
If anything, they got burned by EQN, too. :buck2:
I miss all yoos guys.
Kick starter is live.
I'm interested in the team developing it - it seems like their experience isn't that great - but it is a new studio so it would attract people willing to make a name for themselves and show what they can do etc. Ill be watching this closely.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1791529601/ashes-of-creation-new-mmorpg-by-intrepid-studios?ref=hero_thanks
Did you see the games they have worked on? They have a pretty decent history if you ask me. I'm pretty confident in their history.
The PvP to defend the PvE will be my question mark, but I've gone in for 3 free months & beta, so I'll give it a fair chance.
Their referral program raises a number of red flags for me: https://www.ashesofcreation.com/referral-program/
1.Sign up for an account on https://www.ashesofcreation.com/
2.Go to https://www.ashesofcreation.com/refer/ to get your unique referral code (example: https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/YourName).
3.Give that code to friends and when they signup, they will automatically be your referrals.
4.Over the lifetime of the account, whenever your friends who registered under your unique referral code spend money in Ashes of Creation, including on Kickstarter pledges, you will receive 15% of their account purchases back in either in-game credits or cash back, your choice
Its more affiliate marketing : https://www.techmaish.com/affiliate-marketing-vs-pyramid-scheme-a-clear-difference/
I'm interested in the game but this is a bit dodgy especially with some rumors that the head of the company was involved in xango which apparently was/is a pyramid scheme or multi level marketing thing.
Although they did promise to refund everyone if he game didn't launch so I'm cautious but optimistic
He addressed the concerns on discord : https://images.discordapp.net/.eJwFwdsNwyAMAMBdGICHMQayDQGHREoCAvpVdffefcVn3GIT51p9bkqVa-Y2ipyrjVRZ1tbqzalfU-b2qLRWyufD75oKHBlCHZwlisZpD8pqCoGsNWS1dYgIyu_E4EuEhAfvPkUPGR0zHLGUgk72t4rfH6AZKSk.XZRHDzXMY7U7c-hiRbfENDW4jvE
So I feel better about it
well they're already 70k past their initial goal already. page also has the race/class breakdowns if you scroll down enough. some of the limited number reward sets are already sold out.
Interesting find, Rumze.
I'm ok with it. I'm not pushing it on anyone, but when I make my brother and sister sign up, I get a 30% discount so that's good.
Humans, Elves, Orcs, Dwarves * 2 races per species * a different feel for each archetype based on racial selection.
I think I can be happy about this.
After pondering and doing lots of research on the marketing and team, I'm willing to take a chance on this as well. It sounds pretty similar to other mmos that started like this so willing to take a chance.
It's passed it's funding goal and hit the first stretch goal of a million in 36 hours so it's doing pretty wel
is it a bad sign that i'm thinking of going with the Pioneer level support solely for the tier 3 character creation customization options..?
I'm sure we're all too nice to ask each other to recruit each other. So they'll be getting 15% extra from Saga.
showing off my amazing willpower I went back to the site and saw it had started up an $85 early bird version (the $80 one sold out) of the $100 plan I was talking about yesterday and promptly bought it.
yesirree nothing can overcome my mighty willpow...ooh shiny!
Your willpower is lightly armored and stabs from behind!
O0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcbYJllGfnQ&t=1873s
In-game housing during their live stream, which they do every Mon, Wed, Fri.
So if I were to back this....and I am considering it, as they seem to have the funding to get it done if they stay on task....someone from Saga should get 15%.
Potential someones with a code, please step forward and reveal your secrets!
:)
Wow. Thanks for that link, Pink! I think that's the first live stream from these guys that I've watched, and they seemed to enjoy it so much that I really enjoyed it, too.
Deep, dark confession time. The last time I rolled a dwarf was in EQ, and because it was an off-FV experiment, that experience lasted all of one week. If this Ashes of Creation thing actually happens. I've just decided it will be my priority to have one of my mains go full on dwarf.
:viking2:
Once you go dwarf,
you lose an eye.
Or something like that.
https://ashesofcreation.com/apocalypse
Just FYI, it is really buggy and slow. You need to log into the new website with your old username to transfer it to the new one. Then you can login to the client. Then you need to probably restart it a bunch of times to get it to start downloading properly. I finally got it going. It is downloading right now. I will take a look after it is finished. If it doesn't crash in the process.
EDIT: Actually, I don't know what the hell this is. I thought ti was supposed to be beta for am MMO but it is asking me to queue into games? There is no character creation? I have no idea what is going on with this.
EDIT: I think I queued into a PvP match? Someone just killed me. Wtf? I am confused.
I haven't been following developments religiously, so I didn't know anything about this.
It sounds like some sort of beta test for a high fantasy battle royale mode for the full MMO.
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Ashes_of_Creation_Apocalypse
https://massivelyop.com/2018/12/19/ashes-of-creations-apocalypse-is-now-expected-to-launch-this-afternoon/
https://massivelyop.com/2018/12/21/hands-on-dipping-into-ashes-of-creations-apocalypse-battle-royale/
I downloaded this Apocalypse beta, but haven't played.
I was expecting the MMORPG beta... but this prequel seems seriously sketchy. Everywhere I click, there are places for me to spend Embers (in game currency) to unlock something. When I choose solo mode and try to Play, I just get stuck in a queue for awhile until I get bored and quit the game.
Whatever this "Apocalypse" battle royale prequel is from Intrepid Studios, I am pretty sure I want no part of it. Feels like a money grab where they try to keep the place alive long enough to finish the MMO.
Like EQ Landmark ahead of EQ Next... :pms
I eventually got into a queue. It felt like Fortnite. We stood around in a city. Eventually, a big portal flashed and engulfed us all. We all ended up on griffins and flew down to the surface. I picked up a weapon and some armour and then someone shot me in the head. I had no idea what was going on.
And now the game installer won't uninstall from my computer. I would suggest not downloading this crap.
Ashes of Creation is officially out for me.
I am waiting for Anthem to go live.
EDIT: I had to install iobit unistaller to get rid of the 16gb game installer and all the associated files. It wouldn't uninstall. Annoying.
Quote from: Askari on December 22, 2018, 06:11:56 PM
Everywhere I click, there are places for me to spend Embers (in game currency) to unlock something.
Yea. I was wondering if they actually expected you to spend real money on a very much in beta game that was really clunky and all that.
from what I understood from following the forums is that they wanted to stress test the PVP aspect of the game for large node attacks and figuring that to be one of the bigger hurdles for the game to be able to handle. so they did a massive PVP style event. never had a chance to get into it myself but supposedly once they're satisfied with this they will focus more on the rest of the game. or something to that effect.
for some reason there is a meme going around calling it "Battle Royale" but I only recall a movie or two of that name and not any MMO- unless they mean the movies?
Battle Royale was a Japanese book/movie where kids were thrown on an island and forced to battle in a last-man-standing contest. Later, the Hunger Games books/movies were the same theme.
It's a popular game mode right now thanks to games like Fortnite and PUBG, but PvP was never my cup of tea.
Honestly, the fact that they put out a battle royale PvP thing out bothers me less than the massive amount of "click here to pay to unlock features" buttons in the AoC:Apocalypse beta. It has the unpleasant smell of financial desperation, which is always a bad sign in game studio.
Hopefully I am wrong, because i'd love a nice, new, fun MMORPG to come out!
Quote from: Askari on December 23, 2018, 05:20:35 PM
Honestly, the fact that they put out a battle royale PvP thing out bothers me less than the massive amount of "click here to pay to unlock features" buttons in the AoC:Apocalypse beta. It has the unpleasant smell of financial desperation, which is always a bad sign in game studio.
Hopefully I am wrong, because i'd love a nice, new, fun MMORPG to come out!
This. I surely hope this whiff of bullshit turns out to be a false concern. I will not be downloading...they already have my money anyhow.
Yea, it seemed like a shitty fantasy version of Fortnite battle royal.
So the real game is apparently in Alpha?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBrnv249kJ0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBrnv249kJ0)
should be getting close to it, haven;t seen the roadmap in a while but been seeing a lot of updates on facebook...that i haven;t looked at yet.
Cool. I actually forgot all about this, but it's nice to see things have progressed considerably.
So I am looking into this more. The first alpha is starting soon. Who has this pre-ordered? I am seeing 4 different pre-orders (https://ashesofcreation.com/shop) are very different prices. Are people still planning on playing this?
Because I play everything, I'll check it out, but I'm pretty sure I didn't pay for alpha access.
i preordered. i think the wayfayer pack? don;t think i spent more than 100 so that rules out the other tiers. i still plan to check it out when it happens
After the Everquest Next debacle, I have no plans for pre-orders. No interest in alpha access or beta access. I enjoyed the preview video, so I'll have to start following progress more closely and get reacquainted with what ever it was that originally piqued my interest about this game (it's been a long four years since I last gave it any serious attention), but when it becomes an actual, real, released thing, I'll be interested in actually, really checking it out.