This quiz (http://www.helloquizzy.com/tests/the-1st-edition-advanced-dungeons-amp-dragons-alignment-calculator) was sort of fun. It asks a bunch of questions, assigns you an AD&D alignment and discusses your afterlife destination.
Warning: it asks you to create a username/password and supply an email address at the end of the quiz to see your results... but I just gave it my backup spam email account address. You may not want to bother.
I came away with "True Neutral", by way of choosing a mixed bag of good/evil/chaotic/lawful/balance choices that sort of evened out. The description for True Neutral pegged me pretty well. I'm a "shades of grey" kind of guy.
"True Neutral reacts to the world objectively. What "should be" or "could be" doesn't matter. All that matters is what is. You tend to take things at face value. You don't judge people for their actions, you simply respond to people's actions in whatever way seems most sensible.
You might break the law from time to time, but you realize that certain laws (ie : those prohibiting murder, rape, etc) are important and should not be broken. Likewise, you might take advantage of people when it suits you, but you are not entirely without principles. You could sell something for more than it's worth if someone were gullible enough to buy it, but you wouldn't scam a child out of his allowance or mug an old lady for her pension check. You are practical but you are not cruel, and you believe in fairness and moderation.
You value Truth over wishful thinking and always try to see everyone as they really are, including yourself. And you generally pay people the respect (or disrespect) they deserve, whether it's never giving a sucker an even break or risking your life to protect your loved ones. Good or bad, right or wrong -- in the Big Picture, everything is relative."
Became lawful good. Got -12 chaos, -14 evil and 14 neutral, which really puts me on the lower end being "generally good" and "generally lawful".
QuoteLawful Good people are holier-than-thou do gooders. I'd like to put it more politely, but that pretty much sums them up. This is the most pompous, and at the same time the most clueless, of all alignments -- in fact gamers often amusingly refer to this alignment as "Lawful Stupid." People of this alignment are blindly idealistic and do not see the world as it is, only as it should be. They are basically good people at heart, but they have very narrow views of what the term "good" implies. For them, law & order is the cornerstone of good. They take a dim view of all criminals, even the ones that commit victimless crimes (they believe that no crime is victimless). Lawful Good people are obedient to authority, never rock the boat, and always color inside the lines. They conform to society's standards and they're upstanding and responsible citizens. Because they are very society-minded, they also tend to be political, although particular affiliation may vary. A patriotic republican standing up for God and his country ... a charitable democrat defending the rights of the underpriviledged ... a moderate trying to bring the most good to the greatest number of citizens ... any of these people might be Lawful Good, because each has a rather one-sided idea of how society should be governed. Different Lawful Good groups are often opponents, because each has different definitions of right and wrong, and each believes their way is the right way. Lawful Good is not a specific philosophy so much as a way of life, a disciplined obedience to whatever group you're a part of and a conscious effort to make others follow the same rules you follow -- whether you're a minister preaching a sermon, a cop arresting criminals, a psychologist treating "personality disorders," or even just a regular working stiff who thinks everyone should pull their own weight. Whatever you are, you have a solid set of morals and you believe in playing by the rules. Your alignment is best described as the concept of "Good" simplified to a soap opera mentality-level for ease of consumption.
Got Chaotic Good. That is what I usually get. Or Neutral Good.
-17 chaos, -20 evil and 7 balance!
I am Lawful Good.
I'm always Lawful Good.
More Good than Lawful which is a bit different than usual, I think.
Makes me happy.
Maybe I shouldn't try to answer these like I'm Joffrey Baratheon..?
Quote11 chaos, 29 evil and 5 balance!
Chaotic Evil
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"I'm the hit and run raper in anger,
knife-sharpened tippy-toed ...
or just a shoot 'em dead brain bell jangler,
the one you never seen before"
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-- THE ROLLING STONES, Midnight Rambler
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With regards to Law and Chaos, you are Chaotic
With regards to Good and Evil, you are Evil
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Chaotic Evil people are all different, and that's the key to understanding them. Each of them is a world unto himself or herself. They are fiercely individualistic to the point of literally caring about nothing except themselves, and view other people as either their followers or their enemies. Everything revolves around the Self -- all else is illusion. Other people are generally just tools or playthings, to be used and/or discarded at will. Only the individual matters, and an individual's worth is determined by his or her own strength and merit. Weaker or less intelligent individuals are begging to be taken advantage of, because if someone cannot act of their own free will, they don't deserve free will to begin with. Which is why lesser people join groups and follow authority figures. Groups have rules, rules surpress personal choice, therefore groups are the enemy of the individual, with society being the largest group and therefore the ultimate enemy. Society must be avoided, manipulated, or attacked (as applicable). Arrogance, rebelliousness, paranoia, and hatred are the cornerstones of Chaotic Evil thought. The term "sociopath" comes to mind (except that this term has become so overused it has no real meaning anymore, but that's another matter). In a way, Chaotic Evil is the easiest alignment to be, since it's entirely selfish and self-centered. In another way it's the most difficult alignment to be ...
a universe of one is a horribly lonely place.
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Chaotic Evil is the most hated and misunderstood of all alignments. Because it is the polar opposite of Lawful Good or "the storybook hero alignment," Chaotic Evil has gotten the reputation for being everything that storybook heroes aren't : ugly, treacherous, scheming, cowardly, weak-willed, sadistic, depraved, and so on. In truth, Chaotic Evil is not (necessarily) any of these things. Each Chaotic Evil is different. One might be a backstabbing coward, another might fearlessly attack head-on. One might keep his word, another might break it. One might be a perverted molester, another might go out of his way to kill molesters, a third might not care either way. The point is, every Chaotic Evil does whatever he or she wants, regardless of how it affects anyone else (ironically, a Chaotic Evil's worst enemies are often other Chaotic Evils). A Chaotic Evil trusts no one, is moderately to extremely paranoid, and loves himself above all others. It's not impossible for a Chaotic Evil to love someone else, it's just very unusual. Still, sometimes it does happen. The two lovers in Natural Born Killers, the homicidal hillbillies of The Devil's Rejects, and the Tutman brothers from Blood Diner were all Chaotic Evil, yet they were fiercely loyal to their loved ones. If a Chaotic Evil loves you, REALLY loves you, they will defend you with a fury that even the bravest "hero" could never match ... if you are in their heart, then you're a part of their inner world, and their inner world is everything to them. This is probably the only evil alignment actually capable of real love, because these people are strongly driven by their emotions and impulses. They love deeply. And hate even more deeply.
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This is also the most unstable and self-destructive form of evil, the kind that would cut off its nose to spite its face. Other evil alignments will grovel and beg if they are defeated, degrading themselves in exchange for their lives. Chaotic Evil, in its sheer arrogance, usually just says "f**k you!" This is Prince Mordred, dragging himself up the spear and running himself through, literally killing himself just to get within range to smash King Arthur's skull in with his broadsword. More than anything else, Chaotic Evil is driven by pure SPITE. All things considered, it's hard not to admire them at least a little.
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Quick Scoring Guide
chaos scores of 8 to 19 : generally chaotic
chaos scores of 20 to 29 : exceptionally chaotic
chaos scores of 30 & up : crazy
evil scores of 8 to 19 : generally evil
evil scores of 20 to 29 : exceptionally evil
evil scores of 30 & up : demon
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Your polar opposite is : Lawful Good
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Fictional Examples of CHAOTIC EVIL
Gollum, Smaug, Shelob, and Ungoliant (J.R.R. Tolkien) ... Prince Mordred of Arthurian legend ... Cthulhu and the Old Ones (Lovecraft) ... cosmic abominations in general ... Michael and George Tutman, Uncle Anwar, and Shetar (Blood Diner, which just might be the single funniest movie ever made) ... Pazuzu (the demon from The Exorcist) ... Alma Mobley and the Nightwatchers (Peter Straub's Ghost Story) ... The Crimson King, Randall Flagg, John Rainbird, Roland D. LeBay & Christine, and Pennywise the Clown aka "IT" (the books of Stephen King) ... Alice Cooper (the stage character, not the actual guy in real-life) ... Jame Gumb the homicidal transsexual (The Silence of the Lambs) ... Freddy Krueger (A Nightmare on Elm Street) ... The Joker (Batman) ... Alex (A Clockwork Orange) ... this list could go on and on, Chaotic Evil is apparently a popular alignment
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Possible Real-Life Examples of CHAOTIC EVIL
G.G. Allin ... Charles Manson ... Baby Face Nelson ... Vlad the Impaler ... Countess Bathory ... Caligula ... and an endless variety of freaks and deviants -- everyone from twisted geniuses to run-of-the-mill psychopaths ...
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Your Destination in the Afterlife : THE ABYSS
According to Gygax, your soul is going to The Abyss. This was the classic "primordial abyss" of ancient myth, the eternal void with no beginning and no end. It existed in most cultures in one form or another, usually as the ancient chaos at the beginning of time from which everything else sprang. The different layers of The Abyss (and there are hundreds of them) vary wildly in nature and appearance, but they're all frighteningly warped and alien, and filled with every manner of twisted abomination. A spiralling vortex of insane horror ... but at least it's never boring. Which is probably more than you could say for Heaven.
The Abyss is ruled by demons, the incarnations of Chaotic Evil. As befits their alignment, the demons constantly fight amongst themselves, as each demon believes that he or she alone deserves to rule The Abyss. The most powerful demons (the Demon Princes) control the lesser demons to a point, but their authority generally extends only as far as their reach, for no demon willingly serves anyone else. Demons are essentially ungovernable and very dangerous to deal with. They can sometimes be bribed, but they are notorious deal-breakers and they'll constantly seek ways to enslave or destroy anyone foolish enough to bargain with them. If a demon fears you, you MIGHT be able to coerce it into doing your bidding, at least for a little while. But this is risky because all demons are unstable, and if you push them too far they'll snap. As an example, check out the final volume of Gygax's Gord The Rogue novels, where Tharizdun the Ultimate Evil conquers the Underworld. The Lawful Evil devils of Hell, and the Neutral Evil death-lords of Hades, surrender to Tharizdun and become his slaves because they know he's almost infinitely powerful and they have no chance of defeating him. But when Tharizdum enters The Abyss, the Chaotic Evil demons go berserk and attack him. They know it's sheer suicide to attack him, yet they attack him anyway. Forced to choose between death and slavery, the demons choose death. Which just goes to show you Chaotic Evil doesn't f**k around.
In the AD&D universe, The Abyss has 666 levels. I'll say that again -- six hundred and sixty-six levels. If you stacked all the other planes, one on top of another, they would fill less than 10% of The Abyss. So let's hope they don't fall in. Then again, that might be interesting to watch.
Maybe if you cackle maniacally while doing the test you can get that one extra evil point to become a demon, Namae. :D
QuoteChaotic Neutral is the most mercurial and unpredictable of the alignments. Like the wind, it can change direction at a moment's notice depending on its current mood. Many Chaotic Neutrals have a difficult time caring about anyone or anything for very long. They change sides as easily as they change clothes, and relying on them is dangerous because a Chaotic Neutral can turn on you at a moment's notice ... although to be fair, they're all different, so some are more trustworthy than others. They don't place a high value on life, and might gamble with their own lives just for a thrill. A troubled teen on a death trip is a good example of Chaotic Neutral. So is a hopeless junkie, a compulsive gambler, a burglar that shoots first and thinks later, or anyone else that ignores long-term consequences for immediate gratification. They can be anything from empty-headed thrillseekers to brilliant existential philosophers -- the only thing they all have in common is their contempt for The System and for society in general. Their often overwhelming apathy tends to be their only real comfort. For Chaotic Neutral, "the future's uncertain and the end is always near ..."
Yay, I managed to be less evil! Now we can be friends :)
Once again, I am
True Neutral
(with slight tendencies toward another alignment)
2 chaos, -5 evil and 9 balance!
I liked the comment that followed the result:
"This score is rare, but it does come up sometimes. My test is very accurate but it's not perfect. "
Is the implication that identifying someone as true neutral is most probably a mistake?
true neutral here
-3 chaos, 1 evil 14 balance
Go figure, I'm Lawful Good. Thing is, this guy has a bone to pick with lawful good types...
QuoteLawful Good people are holier-than-thou do gooders. I'd like to put it more politely, but that pretty much sums them up. This is the most pompous, and at the same time the most clueless, of all alignments -- in fact gamers often amusingly refer to this alignment as "Lawful Stupid." People of this alignment are blindly idealistic and do not see the world as it is, only as it should be. They are basically good people at heart, but they have very narrow views of what the term "good" implies. For them, law & order is the cornerstone of good. They take a dim view of all criminals, even the ones that commit victimless crimes (they believe that no crime is victimless). Lawful Good people are obedient to authority, never rock the boat, and always color inside the lines. They conform to society's standards and they're upstanding and responsible citizens. Because they are very society-minded, they also tend to be political, although particular affiliation may vary. A patriotic republican standing up for God and his country ... a charitable democrat defending the rights of the underpriviledged ... a moderate trying to bring the most good to the greatest number of citizens ... any of these people might be Lawful Good, because each has a rather one-sided idea of how society should be governed. Different Lawful Good groups are often opponents, because each has different definitions of right and wrong, and each believes their way is the right way. Lawful Good is not a specific philosophy so much as a way of life, a disciplined obedience to whatever group you're a part of and a conscious effort to make others follow the same rules you follow -- whether you're a minister preaching a sermon, a cop arresting criminals, a psychologist treating "personality disorders," or even just a regular working stiff who thinks everyone should pull their own weight. Whatever you are, you have a solid set of morals and you believe in playing by the rules. Your alignment is best described as the concept of "Good" simplified to a soap opera mentality-level for ease of consumption.
I feel better about it though cause when I checked my scores, both of them are on the cusp of being neutral.
-12 chaos, -10 evil, 10 balance
-8 to -19 chaos is "generally lawful" and
-8 to -19 evil is "generally good."
I thought for sure that I was gonna get Neutral Good. :P
The guy's commentary is about as simplistic as the alignment he seeks to criticize. Lawful anything is a very heavy RP burden to carry, I think. It's grim and violent and requires great will to live with. It would be way cooler to be neutral or chaotic, and people would like you better.
Mixxi was Lawful Good. She and Shintou had a lot in common. Lawful Good and Lawful Evil are pretty similar.
Mixxi did some pretty awful things in the name of being Lawful Good. Lawful Goods do not necessarily follow the rules blindly. In fact, part of the depth of playing them is showing that they recognize the rigidity and cost of their inflexibility and dedication.
My husband and I were taking out the trash and the can rolled over a big frog that had been hiding under the container. It crushed the back half of the frog. There was no way it would survive. But it was still alive. I picked up a rock and crushed the frog's head. My husband was a bit shocked. I have always thought that's what playing a Lawful Good felt like. The certainty that something needs to be done, even if it is not nice or seems heartless or rigid.
I got Neutral Good. Seems about right to me, pretty good quiz.
I got neutral good. I have a common theme of managing to get neutral good at every quiz I take.
I would have smooshed the frog too Mixxi. Not shocking, merciful. Frog should learn to hide less dangerous places.
As Lawful Good, I would put frog(lok) slayers and their accomplices on trial.
As Chaotic Evil, I would have placed the frog(lok) in a shoebox with a tophat and cane.
Neutral Good. 0 chaos, -18 evil and 12 balance
QuoteLawful Good people are holier-than-thou do gooders. I'd like to put it more politely, but that pretty much sums them up. This is the most pompous, and at the same time the most clueless, of all alignments -- in fact gamers often amusingly refer to this alignment as "Lawful Stupid." People of this alignment are blindly idealistic and do not see the world as it is, only as it should be. They are basically good people at heart, but they have very narrow views of what the term "good" implies. For them, law & order is the cornerstone of good. They take a dim view of all criminals, even the ones that commit victimless crimes (they believe that no crime is victimless). Lawful Good people are obedient to authority, never rock the boat, and always color inside the lines. They conform to society's standards and they're upstanding and responsible citizens. Because they are very society-minded, they also tend to be political, although particular affiliation may vary. A patriotic republican standing up for God and his country ... a charitable democrat defending the rights of the underpriviledged ... a moderate trying to bring the most good to the greatest number of citizens ... any of these people might be Lawful Good, because each has a rather one-sided idea of how society should be governed. Different Lawful Good groups are often opponents, because each has different definitions of right and wrong, and each believes their way is the right way. Lawful Good is not a specific philosophy so much as a way of life, a disciplined obedience to whatever group you're a part of and a conscious effort to make others follow the same rules you follow -- whether you're a minister preaching a sermon, a cop arresting criminals, a psychologist treating "personality disorders," or even just a regular working stiff who thinks everyone should pull their own weight. Whatever you are, you have a solid set of morals and you believe in playing by the rules. Your alignment is best described as the concept of "Good" simplified to a soap opera mentality-level for ease of consumption.
I haven't taken the poll, I just wanted to say that this is a
horrible interpretation of Lawful-Good.
Quote from: Syllestrae on February 23, 2014, 08:02:59 PMI haven't taken the poll, I just wanted to say that this is a horrible interpretation of Lawful-Good.
It's an interpretation of Lawful Good that makes me happy to be on the Chaotic Evil side just for the moral distance. Methinks someone had a paladin for a romantic partner that dumped them recently. I'm looking at you, writer of that part of the poll! ???
As a Lifelong Lawful Stupid, I have enough insight to know that, yes, most of us Lawful Good can be seen as Lawful Stupid by the rest of the alignments. "Standing up for what's 'right' and blindly following", makes a great soldier.
If I see nothing wrong with the write-up of Lawful Good, what alignment does that make me?
And I totally could have guessed both PoMixxi & PoNamae's alignments without the test.
@Mixxi, I agree with his statement. I believe that most people who think they are True Neutral are more Neutral Good than they want to be.
@Syll, I would love an honest test from you. Because you have always been an enigma to me.
Same with Namae. Maybe it's a Bard thing.
It's funny. I was much more chaotic when I was younger and most of my characters are chaotic because I appreciate that outlook. But the older I get the more I value the role of law. Not that a law should be followed just because it's there, but until the proper procedure is followed to change it, it should be followed. It kind of makes me sad to see how far from my rastafarian ideals I have fallen. :(
Having read all the results, I would definitely say that the person who wrote them up leaned towards Chaotic Evil. He was especially harsh towards Lawful Good, so I suspect he was bitch-slapped by a paladin for being a little douche during his teenage years.
Quote from: PinkRose on February 23, 2014, 11:05:50 PM
@Mixxi, I agree with his statement. I believe that most people who think they are True Neutral are more Neutral Good than they want to be.
As someone who identifies very strongly with True Neutral, I would say that I am quite happily... "as Lawful Good as my situation allows me to be".
I consider myself very fortunate to be a middle-class American, who can live a Lawful Good lifestyle. However, I have to readily admit that I can imagine many real life scenarios where I would be forced to abandon that LG lifestyle to protect myself, my property, my family, and my friends.
To turn PinkRose's statement around, I believe that most people who think they are Lawful Good would be more True Neutral than they want to be... if the crap hit the fan.
Chaotic good/neutral
I'm Peter Pan and going to Gladsheim in the afterlife. :viking2:
I think a great deal of my true neutral underpinnings come from where I grew up. I lived in a mountain rural area that was extremely isolated--only two other people lived in the valley with us. My early memories are not of buildings and other people. They are of landmarks like rivers, rocks, and trees and of the different animal populations in our valley. The human system of rules appears very much as an artificial construct laid over the natural world to me. I'm very "lawful" to my own moral structure, but it is internal, not externally imposed.
Quote from: Mixxi on February 24, 2014, 02:59:48 AM
I think a great deal of my true neutral underpinnings come from where I grew up. I lived in a mountain rural area that was extremely isolated--only two other people lived in the valley with us. My early memories are not of buildings and other people. They are of landmarks like rivers, rocks, and trees and of the different animal populations in our valley. The human system of rules appears very much as an artificial construct laid over the natural world to me. I'm very "lawful" to my own moral structure, but it is internal, not externally imposed.
Being lawful but you basicly make your own laws, sounds kinda funny ;)
There should be a "chaotic - lawful" alignment then.
Quote from: PinkRose on February 23, 2014, 11:05:50 PM
@Syll, I would love an honest test from you. Because you have always been an enigma to me.
Here you go, good sir. I always get such unexpected results on these.(http://31.media.tumblr.com/034385f154ce187dc5e499b544ac6144/tumblr_mxy76j6bI51s1pfwoo1_500.gif)
Lawful Neutral
-15 chaos, -4 evil and 8 balance!
Lawful Neutral people see themselves as a part of something bigger. They believe that everything operates according to a Higher Plan. Some put their faith in religion, some trust in science, some follow a political party or support a regime. Yet regardless of their different beliefs, they all serve something bigger than themselves. All Lawful Neutrals strive for a perfect society. They are not concerned with individual rights so much as the overall welfare of the majority. They see individuals as component cells of the "group organism." A person eventually dies, but people in general continue to exist. Therefore the only thing that truly matters is the collective, the group. One life is unimportant in the larger scheme of things. In the words of the old Italian mafioso from American Gangster -- "More important than any one man's life is order."
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Lawful Neutral always follows the rules of the group. However, the specific rules will vary depending on which group you're talking about. An F.B.I. agent diligently enforcing the law and never questioning his superiors could be called Lawful Neutral. A Mafia member that is loyal to The Family, respects his elders, doesn't gun down innocent people and lives by a code of honor could also be called Lawful Neutral ... even though the mobster and the F.B.I. agent are deadly enemies. The term "lawful" does not necessarily mean you obey the Law of the Land. It only means you are loyal to a code of conduct (even if it's a criminal code) and that you're a team player. In this alignment, your value is defined by how others view you, not by how you view yourself. A perfect Lawful Neutral would be something like a computer, doing exactly what it's programmed to do and seeing all things in terms of true or false, right or wrong, yes or no. For Lawful Neutral, there are no fractions -- only ones and zeroes. A safe, boring alignment.
Quote from: Askari on February 21, 2014, 01:07:37 PM
Warning: it asks you to create a username/password and supply an email address at the end of the quiz to see your results... but I just gave it my backup spam email account address. You may not want to bother.
Only if you mark yourself as single.
If you mark yourself as in a relationship, and choose not to save your results, no email or registration is required.
Wow, Syll. Not what I would have expected from you!
I know, right?
Lawful Neutral's pretty much the only D&D alignment I've never played. Maybe subconsciously it skewed too close to real life inclinations.
I AM THE LAW!!!!
Really though, these things never output what I would've guessed for myself going into it. I was expecting CN or CG based on the responses I was giving.
A little less lawful than usual. I must be slipping...
True Neutral
3 chaos, -3 evil and 12 balance!
"You chose your way, I chose mine." -- TUCO, The Good The Bad & The Ugly
Quick Scoring Guide
balance of 11 to 19 : a complex person with multiple viewpoints
balance of 06 to 10 : an uncertain and self-contradicting person
balance of 01 to 05 : an unbalanced person full of inner conflicts
balance of 0 : go back and actually TAKE the test, smartass
Examples of True Neutral
Animals, plants, minerals, metals, time, space, and the Universe.
So many Neutrals in Saga.
Who would have thought?
Quote from: Syllestrae on February 24, 2014, 05:44:54 PM
I AM THE LAW!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJiYrRcfQo)
Let me fix that for you. :ninja:
Nooo, let me fix that for you
I AM THE LAW!!!! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl_sRb0uQ7A)
Neutral Good
-2 Chaos, -14 Evil, 13 Balance
There really need to be more options on some of those places. Most of the questions involve dealing with others... what about the Druids out there that have no way to answer the freakin question? lol
Druids don't take the test. They are too busy planting trees to care.
I reran the test and while I came out significantly less evil (only 9 points), I'm still somewhere between Chaotic and Neutral Evil, apparently. ??? ???
I thought I would come out like, Chaotic Neutral at least, maybe leaning towards Chaotic Good. Why am I evil? I don't understand. :'( :'( :'(
Though I bet it might have something to do with not exactly being self sacrificing, and utterly contemptuous of authority. I certainly did a lot of answering that way.
True Neutral, with a slight tendency towards Neutral Good.
Probably a fair assessment. I tested as pretty negative towards evil, and slightly negative to chaos, with a good bit of balance.
Quote from: Namae Nai on March 05, 2014, 02:39:14 AM
utterly contemptuous of authority
Always been my favourite bard. :tan:
DO NOT ENCOURAGE HER!!
I am Neutral Good or Chaotic Good.