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AD&D Alignment Quiz

Started by Askari, February 21, 2014, 01:07:37 PM

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Askari

This quiz was sort of fun. It asks a bunch of questions, assigns you an AD&D alignment and discusses your afterlife destination.

Warning: it asks you to create a username/password and supply an email address at the end of the quiz to see your results... but I just gave it my backup spam email account address. You may not want to bother.

I came away with "True Neutral", by way of choosing a mixed bag of good/evil/chaotic/lawful/balance choices that sort of evened out. The description for True Neutral pegged me pretty well. I'm a "shades of grey" kind of guy.

"True Neutral reacts to the world objectively. What "should be" or "could be" doesn't matter. All that matters is what is. You tend to take things at face value. You don't judge people for their actions, you simply respond to people's actions in whatever way seems most sensible.

You might break the law from time to time, but you realize that certain laws (ie : those prohibiting murder, rape, etc) are important and should not be broken. Likewise, you might take advantage of people when it suits you, but you are not entirely without principles. You could sell something for more than it's worth if someone were gullible enough to buy it, but you wouldn't scam a child out of his allowance or mug an old lady for her pension check. You are practical but you are not cruel, and you believe in fairness and moderation.

You value Truth over wishful thinking and always try to see everyone as they really are, including yourself. And you generally pay people the respect (or disrespect) they deserve, whether it's never giving a sucker an even break or risking your life to protect your loved ones. Good or bad, right or wrong -- in the Big Picture, everything is relative."
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Jhared

Became lawful good. Got -12 chaos, -14 evil and 14 neutral, which really puts me on the lower end being "generally good" and "generally lawful".

QuoteLawful Good people are holier-than-thou do gooders. I'd like to put it more politely, but that pretty much sums them up. This is the most pompous, and at the same time the most clueless, of all alignments -- in fact gamers often amusingly refer to this alignment as "Lawful Stupid." People of this alignment are blindly idealistic and do not see the world as it is, only as it should be. They are basically good people at heart, but they have very narrow views of what the term "good" implies. For them, law & order is the cornerstone of good. They take a dim view of all criminals, even the ones that commit victimless crimes (they believe that no crime is victimless). Lawful Good people are obedient to authority, never rock the boat, and always color inside the lines. They conform to society's standards and they're upstanding and responsible citizens. Because they are very society-minded, they also tend to be political, although particular affiliation may vary. A patriotic republican standing up for God and his country ... a charitable democrat defending the rights of the underpriviledged ... a moderate trying to bring the most good to the greatest number of citizens ... any of these people might be Lawful Good, because each has a rather one-sided idea of how society should be governed. Different Lawful Good groups are often opponents, because each has different definitions of right and wrong, and each believes their way is the right way. Lawful Good is not a specific philosophy so much as a way of life, a disciplined obedience to whatever group you're a part of and a conscious effort to make others follow the same rules you follow -- whether you're a minister preaching a sermon, a cop arresting criminals, a psychologist treating "personality disorders," or even just a regular working stiff who thinks everyone should pull their own weight. Whatever you are, you have a solid set of morals and you believe in playing by the rules. Your alignment is best described as the concept of "Good" simplified to a soap opera mentality-level for ease of consumption.

Gith

Got Chaotic Good. That is what I usually get. Or Neutral Good.

SW:TOR - Tecta (Dark) / ValGith (Light)
Diablo 3 - Alpharius #1269
Wildstar - Tecta
Lost Ark (NA East-Avesta) - Gith
WWZ - Gith_
FFXIV (NA-Cactaur) - Gith Redmayne

PinkRose

-17 chaos, -20 evil and 7 balance!
I am Lawful Good.
I'm always Lawful Good.
More Good than Lawful which is a bit different than usual, I think.
Makes me happy.
The opinions expressed here are my own and I have my wife's permission to say so.

Namae Nai

Maybe I shouldn't try to answer these like I'm Joffrey Baratheon..?

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11 chaos, 29 evil and 5 balance!

Chaotic Evil



"I'm the hit and run raper in anger,

knife-sharpened tippy-toed ...

or just a shoot 'em dead brain bell jangler,

the one you never seen before"

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-- THE ROLLING STONES, Midnight Rambler


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With regards to Law and Chaos, you are Chaotic

With regards to Good and Evil, you are Evil

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Chaotic Evil people are all different, and that's the key to understanding them. Each of them is a world unto himself or herself. They are fiercely individualistic to the point of literally caring about nothing except themselves, and view other people as either their followers or their enemies. Everything revolves around the Self -- all else is illusion. Other people are generally just tools or playthings, to be used and/or discarded at will. Only the individual matters, and an individual's worth is determined by his or her own strength and merit. Weaker or less intelligent individuals are begging to be taken advantage of, because if someone cannot act of their own free will, they don't deserve free will to begin with. Which is why lesser people join groups and follow authority figures. Groups have rules, rules surpress personal choice, therefore groups are the enemy of the individual, with society being the largest group and therefore the ultimate enemy. Society must be avoided, manipulated, or attacked (as applicable). Arrogance, rebelliousness, paranoia, and hatred are the cornerstones of Chaotic Evil thought. The term "sociopath" comes to mind (except that this term has become so overused it has no real meaning anymore, but that's another matter). In a way, Chaotic Evil is the easiest alignment to be, since it's entirely selfish and self-centered. In another way it's the most difficult alignment to be ...

a universe of one is a horribly lonely place. 

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Chaotic Evil is the most hated and misunderstood of all alignments. Because it is the polar opposite of Lawful Good or "the storybook hero alignment," Chaotic Evil has gotten the reputation for being everything that storybook heroes aren't : ugly, treacherous, scheming, cowardly, weak-willed, sadistic, depraved, and so on. In truth, Chaotic Evil is not (necessarily) any of these things. Each Chaotic Evil is different. One might be a backstabbing coward, another might fearlessly attack head-on. One might keep his word, another might break it. One might be a perverted molester, another might go out of his way to kill molesters, a third might not care either way. The point is, every Chaotic Evil does whatever he or she wants, regardless of how it affects anyone else (ironically, a Chaotic Evil's worst enemies are often other Chaotic Evils). A Chaotic Evil trusts no one, is moderately to extremely paranoid, and loves himself above all others. It's not impossible for a Chaotic Evil to love someone else, it's just very unusual. Still, sometimes it does happen. The two lovers in Natural Born Killers, the homicidal hillbillies of The Devil's Rejects, and the Tutman brothers from Blood Diner were all Chaotic Evil, yet they were fiercely loyal to their loved ones. If a Chaotic Evil loves you, REALLY loves you, they will defend you with a fury that even the bravest "hero" could never match ... if you are in their heart, then you're a part of their inner world, and their inner world is everything to them. This is probably the only evil alignment actually capable of real love, because these people are strongly driven by their emotions and impulses. They love deeply. And hate even more deeply. 

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This is also the most unstable and self-destructive form of evil, the kind that would cut off its nose to spite its face. Other evil alignments will grovel and beg if they are defeated, degrading themselves in exchange for their lives. Chaotic Evil, in its sheer arrogance, usually just says "f**k you!"  This is Prince Mordred, dragging himself up the spear and running himself through, literally killing himself just to get within range to smash King Arthur's skull in with his broadsword. More than anything else, Chaotic Evil is driven by pure SPITE. All things considered, it's hard not to admire them at least a little.     

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Quick Scoring Guide

chaos scores of 8 to 19 : generally chaotic

chaos scores of 20 to 29 : exceptionally chaotic

chaos scores of 30 & up : crazy

evil scores of 8 to 19 : generally evil

evil scores of 20 to 29 : exceptionally evil

evil scores of 30 & up : demon

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Your polar opposite is : Lawful Good

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Fictional Examples of CHAOTIC EVIL

Gollum, Smaug, Shelob, and Ungoliant (J.R.R. Tolkien) ... Prince Mordred of Arthurian legend ... Cthulhu and the Old Ones (Lovecraft) ... cosmic abominations in general ... Michael and George Tutman, Uncle Anwar, and Shetar (Blood Diner, which just might be the single funniest movie ever made) ... Pazuzu (the demon from The Exorcist) ... Alma Mobley and the Nightwatchers (Peter Straub's Ghost Story) ... The Crimson King, Randall Flagg, John Rainbird, Roland D. LeBay & Christine, and Pennywise the Clown aka "IT" (the books of Stephen King) ... Alice Cooper (the stage character, not the actual guy in real-life) ... Jame Gumb the homicidal transsexual (The Silence of the Lambs) ... Freddy Krueger (A Nightmare on Elm Street) ... The Joker (Batman) ... Alex (A Clockwork Orange) ... this list could go on and on, Chaotic Evil is apparently a popular alignment

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Possible Real-Life Examples of CHAOTIC EVIL

G.G. Allin ... Charles Manson ... Baby Face Nelson ... Vlad the Impaler ... Countess Bathory ... Caligula ... and an endless variety of freaks and deviants -- everyone from twisted geniuses to run-of-the-mill psychopaths ...

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Your Destination in the Afterlife : THE ABYSS

According to Gygax, your soul is going to The Abyss. This was the classic "primordial abyss" of ancient myth, the eternal void with no beginning and no end. It existed in most cultures in one form or another, usually as the ancient chaos at the beginning of time from which everything else sprang. The different layers of The Abyss (and there are hundreds of them) vary wildly in nature and appearance, but they're all frighteningly warped and alien, and filled with every manner of twisted abomination. A spiralling vortex of insane horror ... but at least it's never boring. Which is probably more than you could say for Heaven.

The Abyss is ruled by demons, the incarnations of Chaotic Evil. As befits their alignment, the demons constantly fight amongst themselves, as each demon believes that he or she alone deserves to rule The Abyss. The most powerful demons (the Demon Princes) control the lesser demons to a point, but their authority generally extends only as far as their reach, for no demon willingly serves anyone else. Demons are essentially ungovernable and very dangerous to deal with. They can sometimes be bribed, but they are notorious deal-breakers and they'll constantly seek ways to enslave or destroy anyone foolish enough to bargain with them. If a demon fears you, you MIGHT be able to coerce it into doing your bidding, at least for a little while. But this is risky because all demons are unstable, and if you push them too far they'll snap. As an example, check out the final volume of Gygax's Gord The Rogue novels, where Tharizdun the Ultimate Evil conquers the Underworld. The Lawful Evil devils of Hell, and the Neutral Evil death-lords of Hades, surrender to Tharizdun and become his slaves because they know he's almost infinitely powerful and they have no chance of defeating him. But when Tharizdum enters The Abyss, the Chaotic Evil demons go berserk and attack him. They know it's sheer suicide to attack him, yet they attack him anyway. Forced to choose between death and slavery, the demons choose death. Which just goes to show you Chaotic Evil doesn't f**k around.       

In the AD&D universe, The Abyss has 666 levels. I'll say that again -- six hundred and sixty-six levels. If you stacked all the other planes, one on top of another, they would fill less than 10% of The Abyss. So let's hope they don't fall in. Then again, that might be interesting to watch.
Namae Nai, Wandering Troubadour, 60,000,000,000$$ reward!

Jhared

Maybe if you cackle maniacally while doing the test you can get that one extra evil point to become a demon, Namae. :D

Pedekele

#6
QuoteChaotic Neutral is the most mercurial and unpredictable of the alignments. Like the wind, it can change direction at a moment's notice depending on its current mood. Many Chaotic Neutrals have a difficult time caring about anyone or anything for very long. They change sides as easily as they change clothes, and relying on them is dangerous because a Chaotic Neutral can turn on you at a moment's notice ... although to be fair, they're all different, so some are more trustworthy than others. They don't place a high value on life, and might gamble with their own lives just for a thrill. A troubled teen on a death trip is a good example of Chaotic Neutral. So is a hopeless junkie, a compulsive gambler, a burglar that shoots first and thinks later, or anyone else that ignores long-term consequences for immediate gratification. They can be anything from empty-headed thrillseekers to brilliant existential philosophers -- the only thing they all have in common is their contempt for The System and for society in general. Their often overwhelming apathy tends to be their only real comfort. For Chaotic Neutral, "the future's uncertain and the end is always near ..."
Yay, I managed to be less evil! Now we can be friends :)

Mixxi

#7
Once again, I am


True Neutral

(with slight tendencies toward another alignment)
2 chaos, -5 evil and 9 balance!

I liked the comment that followed the result:

"This score is rare, but it does come up sometimes. My test is very accurate but it's not perfect. "

Is the implication that identifying someone as true neutral is most probably a mistake?

tanare

true neutral here

-3 chaos, 1 evil 14 balance

Auren

Go figure, I'm Lawful Good.  Thing is, this guy has a bone to pick with lawful good types...

QuoteLawful Good people are holier-than-thou do gooders. I'd like to put it more politely, but that pretty much sums them up. This is the most pompous, and at the same time the most clueless, of all alignments -- in fact gamers often amusingly refer to this alignment as "Lawful Stupid." People of this alignment are blindly idealistic and do not see the world as it is, only as it should be. They are basically good people at heart, but they have very narrow views of what the term "good" implies. For them, law & order is the cornerstone of good. They take a dim view of all criminals, even the ones that commit victimless crimes (they believe that no crime is victimless). Lawful Good people are obedient to authority, never rock the boat, and always color inside the lines. They conform to society's standards and they're upstanding and responsible citizens. Because they are very society-minded, they also tend to be political, although particular affiliation may vary. A patriotic republican standing up for God and his country ... a charitable democrat defending the rights of the underpriviledged ... a moderate trying to bring the most good to the greatest number of citizens ... any of these people might be Lawful Good, because each has a rather one-sided idea of how society should be governed. Different Lawful Good groups are often opponents, because each has different definitions of right and wrong, and each believes their way is the right way. Lawful Good is not a specific philosophy so much as a way of life, a disciplined obedience to whatever group you're a part of and a conscious effort to make others follow the same rules you follow -- whether you're a minister preaching a sermon, a cop arresting criminals, a psychologist treating "personality disorders," or even just a regular working stiff who thinks everyone should pull their own weight. Whatever you are, you have a solid set of morals and you believe in playing by the rules. Your alignment is best described as the concept of "Good" simplified to a soap opera mentality-level for ease of consumption.

I feel better about it though cause when I checked my scores, both of them are on the cusp of being neutral.

-12 chaos, -10 evil, 10 balance

-8 to -19 chaos is "generally lawful" and
-8 to -19 evil is "generally good."

I thought for sure that I was gonna get Neutral Good. :P

Mixxi

The guy's commentary is about as simplistic as the alignment he seeks to criticize. Lawful anything is a very heavy RP burden to carry, I think. It's grim and violent and requires great will to live with. It would be way cooler to be neutral or chaotic, and people would like you better.

Mixxi was Lawful Good. She and Shintou had a lot in common. Lawful Good and Lawful Evil are pretty similar.

Mixxi did some pretty awful things in the name of being Lawful Good. Lawful Goods do not necessarily follow the rules blindly. In fact, part of the depth of playing them is showing that they recognize the rigidity and cost of their inflexibility and dedication.

My husband and I were taking out the trash and the can rolled over a big frog that had been hiding under the container. It crushed the back half of the frog. There was no way it would survive. But it was still alive. I picked up a rock and crushed the frog's head. My husband was a bit shocked. I have always thought that's what playing a Lawful Good felt like. The certainty that something needs to be done, even if it is not nice or seems heartless or rigid.

Cyrian

I got Neutral Good.  Seems about right to me, pretty good quiz.


"The Spatula of Purity shall scramble the eggs of your malfeasance!" Sir Osric The Chaste

GuidingOlive

I got neutral good. I have a common theme of managing to get neutral good at every quiz I take.

Gith

I would have smooshed the frog too Mixxi. Not shocking, merciful. Frog should learn to hide less dangerous places.

SW:TOR - Tecta (Dark) / ValGith (Light)
Diablo 3 - Alpharius #1269
Wildstar - Tecta
Lost Ark (NA East-Avesta) - Gith
WWZ - Gith_
FFXIV (NA-Cactaur) - Gith Redmayne

Jasyn

As Lawful Good, I would put frog(lok) slayers and their accomplices on trial.

As Chaotic Evil, I would have placed the frog(lok) in a shoebox with a tophat and cane.


Jezerai

Neutral Good.  0 chaos, -18 evil and 12 balance
EQ2: Boudeccai, Callysta, Dulcette, Mabb, Missa, Kudzoo, Negghia, Alanni
SWTOR: Jezerai, Callysta, Jujule, Myrriam, Catta, Temi'ana
TSW: Kud-zu, Teasel

Syllestrae


QuoteLawful Good people are holier-than-thou do gooders. I'd like to put it more politely, but that pretty much sums them up. This is the most pompous, and at the same time the most clueless, of all alignments -- in fact gamers often amusingly refer to this alignment as "Lawful Stupid." People of this alignment are blindly idealistic and do not see the world as it is, only as it should be. They are basically good people at heart, but they have very narrow views of what the term "good" implies. For them, law & order is the cornerstone of good. They take a dim view of all criminals, even the ones that commit victimless crimes (they believe that no crime is victimless). Lawful Good people are obedient to authority, never rock the boat, and always color inside the lines. They conform to society's standards and they're upstanding and responsible citizens. Because they are very society-minded, they also tend to be political, although particular affiliation may vary. A patriotic republican standing up for God and his country ... a charitable democrat defending the rights of the underpriviledged ... a moderate trying to bring the most good to the greatest number of citizens ... any of these people might be Lawful Good, because each has a rather one-sided idea of how society should be governed. Different Lawful Good groups are often opponents, because each has different definitions of right and wrong, and each believes their way is the right way. Lawful Good is not a specific philosophy so much as a way of life, a disciplined obedience to whatever group you're a part of and a conscious effort to make others follow the same rules you follow -- whether you're a minister preaching a sermon, a cop arresting criminals, a psychologist treating "personality disorders," or even just a regular working stiff who thinks everyone should pull their own weight. Whatever you are, you have a solid set of morals and you believe in playing by the rules. Your alignment is best described as the concept of "Good" simplified to a soap opera mentality-level for ease of consumption.

I haven't taken the poll, I just wanted to say that this is a horrible interpretation of Lawful-Good.

Namae Nai

Quote from: Syllestrae on February 23, 2014, 08:02:59 PMI haven't taken the poll, I just wanted to say that this is a horrible interpretation of Lawful-Good.

It's an interpretation of Lawful Good that makes me happy to be on the Chaotic Evil side just for the moral distance. Methinks someone had a paladin for a romantic partner that dumped them recently. I'm looking at you, writer of that part of the poll!  ???
Namae Nai, Wandering Troubadour, 60,000,000,000$$ reward!

PinkRose

As a Lifelong Lawful Stupid, I have enough insight to know that, yes, most of us Lawful Good can be seen as Lawful Stupid by the rest of the alignments. "Standing up for what's 'right' and blindly following", makes a great soldier.
If I see nothing wrong with the write-up of Lawful Good, what alignment does that make me?

And I totally could have guessed both PoMixxi & PoNamae's alignments without the test.

@Mixxi, I agree with his statement. I believe that most people who think they are True Neutral are more Neutral Good than they want to be.

@Syll, I would love an honest test from you. Because you have always been an enigma to me.
Same with Namae. Maybe it's a Bard thing.

The opinions expressed here are my own and I have my wife's permission to say so.

Jezerai

 It's funny. I was much more chaotic when I was younger and most of my characters are chaotic because I appreciate that outlook.  But the older I get the more I value the role of law.  Not that a law should be followed just because it's there, but until the proper procedure is followed to change it, it should be followed.  It kind of makes me sad to see how far from my rastafarian ideals I have fallen.  :(
EQ2: Boudeccai, Callysta, Dulcette, Mabb, Missa, Kudzoo, Negghia, Alanni
SWTOR: Jezerai, Callysta, Jujule, Myrriam, Catta, Temi'ana
TSW: Kud-zu, Teasel